Sunday, August 17, 2008

Did Jesus Christ Commit Suicide?


Looking at what different religions say about suicide, the gamut runs from eternal damnation to accepted as the ultimate act of faith. This deals with the Jesus story and his death.

Merriam-Webster
Main Entry: sui·cide
Pronunciation: \ˈsü-ə-ˌsīd\
Date: 1643
1 a: the act or an instance of taking one's own life voluntarily and intentionally especially by a person of years of discretion and of sound mind.

On the face of it, it would seem that Jesus did not commit suicide. He did not take his own life.

One can argue that if you can prevent your death and you do not make an effort to live, that would also be suicide. If you are standing on railroad tracks and a train comes along, and you do not get off the tracks on purpose, that would be suicide.

Now if Jesus knew he was going to be killed and he was god, he could easily have gotten off the cross and stopped his murder, he could have escaped; is that suicide?

Of course, the story says he died for our sins, but that just means he had a good enough reason to commit suicide. Everyone that commits suicide thinks they have a good reason to commit suicide, but that doesn’t get you off the hook about it being suicide.

I suppose that god the father could have temporarily taken away Jesus’ super powers, but I know of no reference to this. And of course it is not up to humans to decide what happens, it’s up to God.

No self-respecting god would send a soldier to hell for throwing himself on a hand grenade to save his buddies. Therefore, suicide is wrong unless you have a good enough reason.

In a case where you have been accused of a capital punishment crime that you know you are innocent, is it your responsibility to try to escape? And if you don’t try, is that suicide?


So it would appear that Jesus did commit suicide, but was allowed to.






When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? It is because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind. ~ J. Krishnamurthi

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12 comments:

Patricia L said...

Whoever wrote that blog about Jesus committing suicide is one sick dude... You don't have to believe the Bible- but to write such nonsense just shows his ignorance. Thank God for the rest of us that take The Lord seriously. Those of us who would pray for the sick and try to encourage others. The time is at hand and we much now become serious about the future as this earth age is coming to an end and it's not a game. Everyone will meet his Maker and his name is God, The Lord Jesus Christ, Emanuel and believing or not does not change the facts.

Ady said...

Good post.

Anonymous said...

Your entire argument is based on a particular argument (specifically, that not doing anything to prevent your death qualifies as suicide, which is easily arguable) about suicide which cannot be confirmed. Since the original question is based around the definition of suicide, it is a logical fallacy to make a conclusion based on a theory based on a theory. It's obvious you haven't even read the Bible, what right do you have to criticize it?

It doesn't stop there. You completely jump to conclusions.

"In a case where you have been accused of a capital punishment crime that you know you are innocent, is it your responsibility to try to escape? And if you don’t try, is that suicide? So it would appear that Jesus did commit suicide, but was allowed to."

Your questions actually debunk your own argument, because if you're innocent and have been accused, it doesn't mean that you're even going to be found guilty. Even if you were, wouldn't you appeal to the courts? Wouldn't escaping just bring more pain and suffering upon yourself? So I suppose just living is suicide, because you know that in the end you're going to die.

Where's the part where you prove that Jesus committed suicide? Are two non-rhetorical questions your actual proof here, or what? There's nothing here except a question and a conclusion based on a broken argument, half of which doesn't even exist within your post at all.

You know what, I'm sorry I even wasted my precious time with this, there's nothing that can be constituted as an actual argument here, just a lot of inquisitive introduction, and then you kinda cut out the part where you actually prove your point, but leave the conclusion. Come back to me with an actual argument with supporting proofs, and then maybe I'll give it some consideration.

Anonymous said...

I guess you are not paying attention. His position is that Jesus could have prevented his death, but didn't. That is suicide in just about everyone's opinion.

"If you are standing on railroad tracks and a train comes along, and you do not get off the tracks on purpose, that would be suicide."

What don't you understand about that?

Anonymous said...

I think our earth lives are all programmed in advance. Jesus knew his future, and crusifiction was his final destination so he just let it go. We don't know our future, so if i kill myself before my programmed time i guess my spirit would be punished somehow. Maybe for a period of time what normally i should have still lived on earth?

Or maybe suicide is not a sin at all, it doesn;t even make sense!! Its my business whether i kill myself or not.

Maria said...

For Muslims, we believe its a sin to commit suicide, because our life is a gift from God.

And we also believe that Jesus was taken up in heaven and the person put on the cross was not Jesus. I am sure suicide is a sin in Christianity too.

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Cade Skywalker said...

I believe I have a brother who thought this way, I've been trying to Come to terms with this "Wounded Healer" mindset and have Countless Sleepless nights battling this "illness". l also noticed that More Youth have adopted this Mindset which is either evident of ouradvanced esoteric Mindset or an all out assault by the devil. More research should be done in this field of counselling

Cade Skywalker said...

I believe I have a brother who thought this way, I've been trying to Come to terms with this "Wounded Healer" mindset and have Countless Sleepless nights battling this "illness". l also noticed that More Youth have adopted this Mindset which is either evident of ouradvanced esoteric Mindset or an all out assault by the devil. More research should be done in this field of counselling